How to order 80 days ahead without guessing
When goods take 80 days to arrive, you order before you have a plan. Here's the simple maths for a rolling forecast and order amounts with safety stock, with an example table. Based on a distributor pilot.
Short answer: when goods take 80 days to arrive, start with a rolling sales forecast: base sales, minus expected dips, plus promo lift. Then order enough to cover the lead time, the days until the next order and your safety stock. Take off stock on hand and stock on the way. A person approves the order.
The problem: you order before you know
Take a lubricants distributor we work with. From order to warehouse takes 75 to 80 days. Pricing. Prepayment. A month of making. A month of shipping.
So goods for January must be ordered in early October.
But in early October, there's no sales plan for three months ahead. So they order blind. And cash gets frozen in stock.
The plan lived in a big Excel rolling forecast. Sales, supply and marketing filled it in by hand.
And lead times don't hold still. Shipping routes can close and change them.
Step 1: build the sales plan
Start with one simple formula:
plan = base sales − dips + promo lift
- Base sales: what you usually sell. Use your sales history, but take out past promotions. Otherwise last year's big sale looks like normal demand.
- Dips: months you expect to sell less, like a holiday month.
- Promo lift: extra sales you expect from a planned promotion.
Here's an example. These are made-up numbers, not the client's.
| Month | Base sales | Dips | Promo lift | Plan |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 300 | −30 | 0 | 270 |
| February | 300 | 0 | +60 | 360 |
| March | 300 | 0 | 0 | 300 |
Do this for six months ahead, and roll it forward every month. That's a rolling forecast. We call it a forecast on purpose. Nobody knows the future. A good forecast shows its reasons, so people can disagree with it.
Step 2: work out how much to order
Now turn the plan into an order. You need enough to last until the next order can arrive, plus a cushion.
order = daily plan × (lead time + days of cover + safety days) − stock on hand − stock on the way
Another example. Again, made-up numbers.
| Input | Value |
|---|---|
| Daily plan | 4 units |
| Lead time | 80 days |
| Days of cover after it arrives | 30 days |
| Safety stock | 15 days |
| Needed: 4 × (80 + 30 + 15) | 500 units |
| Stock on hand | 220 units |
| Stock on the way | 172 units |
| Order now | 108 units |
Then check the minimum order. If the supplier's minimum is higher, you either order the minimum or wait.
Step 3: show only the choices that matter
This is the part most tools get wrong.
In the pilot, we built all of it:
- a 6-month rolling forecast from sales history, cleaned of past promotions;
- order amounts with the 80-day lead time, the minimum order and 15 days of safety stock;
- purchase orders you approve, email to the supplier in one click, and mark as received.
A person approves every order.
We also built a daily "Today" screen with the few choices that matter. Lines like:
- "Move 120 units from one warehouse to another."
- "Order 108 units, arriving 22 Feb. Covers 30 days plus 15 days of safety stock."
What the team told us
On 3 Nov, the team gave us honest feedback. The logic is strong. But the screen is too complex.
Their words, roughly: not a chat. A simple screen, like a weather forecast. You see it, you understand it, you act.
They're right. A forecast nobody reads is worth nothing.
So we split it into blocks. We start with sales, and the screen is being made simpler now.
A checklist for long lead times
- Clean your history. Take past promotions out before you forecast.
- Write the plan as a formula. Base, minus dips, plus promo lift.
- Roll it forward monthly. Six months ahead.
- Know your real lead time. And watch for routes that change it.
- Set safety stock in days. It's easier to talk about than units.
- Count stock on the way. It's the line people forget.
- Show only today's choices. Hide the maths behind them.
- Keep a person on every order. The maths drafts. People decide.
The short version
You can't know the future. But you can stop guessing. A plain formula, a rolling forecast and a short daily list turn an 80-day bet into a choice you can explain.
Read the full story: How a lubricants distributor plans orders 80 days ahead
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Questions people ask
- How do I plan orders with a long lead time?
- Forecast sales for the months ahead. Then order enough to cover the lead time, the days until the next order and your safety stock. Take off what you have and what's on the way.
- What is the formula for a sales plan?
- A simple one: plan = base sales − dips + promo lift. Base sales are your usual sales, cleaned of past promotions.
- How much safety stock do I need?
- It depends on how much your sales and lead times move. The distributor in this pilot plans for 15 days of safety stock.
- Can AI place the order for me?
- It can draft it. In this pilot, a person approves every order. Then it emails the supplier in one click.
- Why not just use a big spreadsheet?
- Many teams do. The trouble is that it's filled in by hand by several teams, and it's hard to see which few choices matter today.
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